{"id":9877,"date":"2016-12-27T09:37:46","date_gmt":"2016-12-27T09:37:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/canon-60da-test-rapide\/"},"modified":"2025-06-14T12:24:47","modified_gmt":"2025-06-14T10:24:47","slug":"canon-60da-test-rapide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/canon-60da-test-rapide\/","title":{"rendered":"Canon 60Da test rapide"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Voici un test rapide qui consiste \u00e0 voir le bruit \u00e9lectronique du boitier 60Da, c\u00e0d le capteur son \u00e9lectronique associ\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>D&rsquo;abord, une s\u00e9rie d&rsquo;images est captur\u00e9e avec la cam\u00e9ra. Ces images sont moyenn\u00e9es.<br \/>\nEnsuite, \u00e0 une image de base de la s\u00e9rie, on retire cette moyenne. On obtient une image-bruit.<br \/>\nPour faire simple, \u00e0 une image de base avec son bruit total, on retire le bruit moyen. Il ne reste que le bruit propre au processus de capture d\u2019image.<\/p>\n<p>On peut ensuite observer le r\u00e9sultat en ajustant les niveaux. Mais on peut aussi faire parler l\u2019information contenue dans l\u2019image-bruit en lui appliquant une FFT (Fast Fourrier Transform), qui est une analyse fr\u00e9quentielle.<\/p>\n<p>Revenons un peu en arri\u00e8re dans le temps, sur le Canon 40D, dont voici l&rsquo;image-bruit, \u00e0 gauche.<br \/>\nA droite, sa FFT montre un point central. Le signal de la FFT est concentr\u00e9 au milieu signifiant que le bruit dans l&rsquo;image est al\u00e9atoire (sans fr\u00e9quence pr\u00e9f\u00e9rentielle).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT_c.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"1118\" data-lbwps-height=\"908\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT_c-300x244.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT_c-300x244.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"244\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-14810\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Les niveaux ont \u00e9t\u00e9s \u00e9tir\u00e9s (Stretch) en automatique sous pixinsight (Screen Transfer Function). Un \u00ab\u00a0pattern\u00a0\u00bb horizontal est visible \u00e0 l\u2019\u0153il sur l&rsquo;image bruit.<br \/>\nSi nous \u00e9tirons les niveaux sur la FFT (\u00e0 droite), ce pattern horizontal se traduit par des bandes verticales. C&rsquo;est l&#8217;empreinte de ce bruit qui est non al\u00e9atoire.<br \/>\nLes captures de base sont prises \u00e0 1\/8000s, pour s&rsquo;affranchir du bruit thermique.<br \/>\nLe r\u00e9glage ISO est mis sur 800, compromis entre l&rsquo;amplification et le bruit. C&rsquo;est une valeur utilis\u00e9e couramment en imagerie avec cette cam\u00e9ra.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"1122\" data-lbwps-height=\"874\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x234.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-40Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-off1000_C-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x234.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"234\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-14812\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Est-ce un probl\u00e8me g\u00eanant? Non, du moins tant que l&rsquo;objet est lumineux. Voici une image de M31 faite avec ce boitier 40D:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20081220-20080927S01full_99pct.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"3869\" data-lbwps-height=\"2576\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20081220-20080927S01full_99pct-300x200.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20081220-20080927S01full_99pct-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-14814\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Le sujet du post est le 60Da. Voici sous les m\u00eames conditions une image-bruit r\u00e9alis\u00e9e avec un 60Da d&rsquo;origine.<br \/>\nL&rsquo;image-bruit g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9e est nettement plus r\u00e9guli\u00e8re et le pattern horizontal presque indiscernable. C&rsquo;est tr\u00e8s encourageant.<br \/>\nLa FFT montre cependant une croix, mais le niveau y semble d&rsquo;intensit\u00e9 moindre que pour les bandes du 40D. Il y a un pattern r\u00e9siduel horizontal ET vertical dans l&rsquo;image du 60Da, mais limit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"1123\" data-lbwps-height=\"952\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x254.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso0800_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x254.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"254\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-14816\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Un grand avantage des cam\u00e9ras r\u00e9centes est de pouvoir pousser le gain.<br \/>\nL&rsquo;image pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente \u00e9tait r\u00e9alis\u00e9e avec des captures faites sous 1\/8000s et ISO800, comme pour le 40D.<br \/>\nPoussons le gain du 60Da \u00e0 ISO6400, \u00e7\u00e0d au nominal de la gamme normale de travail bu boitier.<br \/>\nLes param\u00e8tres ne sont pas les m\u00eames et l&rsquo;aspect de l&rsquo;image-bruit cr\u00e9\u00e9e est un peu diff\u00e9rent (Stretch!), mais ce qui nous int\u00e9resse le plus, c&rsquo;est le bruit \u00e9lectronique dans l&rsquo;image.<br \/>\nUn pattern horizontal est \u00e0 peine discernable sur l\u2019image-bruit.<br \/>\nIl est mis en \u00e9vidence par la FFT. Mais il reste inf\u00e9rieur au bruit du 40D sous ISO800.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso6400_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"1120\" data-lbwps-height=\"895\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso6400_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x240.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/20161227-60Da_Exp0000s000m125micros_Iso6400_MDL_Pic001-Avg-Off1000_c-0512x0512_FFT-STF_c-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-14820\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;eut \u00e9t\u00e9 plus \u00e9quitable de comparer deux boitiers \u00ab\u00a0a\u00a0\u00bb d\u2019origine, le  20Da et le 60Da. Mais on peut supposer que les am\u00e9liorations de l&rsquo;\u00e9lectronique du 20Da ont pu \u00eatre exploit\u00e9es dans les boitiers suivants.<br \/>\nLe 40D est sorti en 2007.<br \/>\nLe 60Da est sorti en 2012.<br \/>\nC&rsquo;est une belle \u00e9volution des APN Reflex.<\/p>\n<p>Alexandre<br \/>\n2016Jan21<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-left kksr-valign-bottom\"\n    data-payload='{&quot;align&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;9877&quot;,&quot;slug&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;valign&quot;:&quot;bottom&quot;,&quot;ignore&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;reference&quot;:&quot;auto&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;count&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;legendonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;readonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;score&quot;:&quot;10&quot;,&quot;starsonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;best&quot;:&quot;10&quot;,&quot;gap&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;greet&quot;:&quot;Veuillez voter&quot;,&quot;legend&quot;:&quot;10\\\/10 - (1 vote)&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Canon 60Da test rapide&quot;,&quot;width&quot;:&quot;227.5&quot;,&quot;_legend&quot;:&quot;{score}\\\/{best} - ({count} {votes})&quot;,&quot;font_factor&quot;:&quot;1.25&quot;}'>\n            \n<div class=\"kksr-stars\">\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-inactive\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"1\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 18px; 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D&rsquo;abord, une s\u00e9rie d&rsquo;images est captur\u00e9e avec la cam\u00e9ra. Ces images sont moyenn\u00e9es. Ensuite, \u00e0 une image de base de la s\u00e9rie, on retire cette moyenne. On obtient une image-bruit. Pour faire simple, \u00e0 une [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-astrobricolage"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/16"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9877"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9877\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14821,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9877\/revisions\/14821"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groupeastronomiespa.be\/astrogas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}